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		By: Phillip Nash		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Phillip Nash]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 May 2021 11:09:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Thanks - I like your closing comment. I guess much of what we disagree on is often the finer details and it is a shame we can&#039;t always be civil about even those.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks &#8211; I like your closing comment. I guess much of what we disagree on is often the finer details and it is a shame we can&#8217;t always be civil about even those.</p>
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		By: Brian Harris		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Brian Harris]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 May 2021 11:06:59 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://brianharrisauthor.com/arguing-for-the-sake-of-heaven-why-we-need-curious-conversations/#comment-19728&quot;&gt;Phillip Nash&lt;/a&gt;.

It is a real tension - which I guess makes “arguing for the sake of heaven” all the more important. We need to be able push back, and to ask people to qualify what they are saying, or expand on it. And at times we have to agree to disagree - though hopefully that doesn’t happen too quickly. I guess the stress comes when we hear an unexpected view that comes as a real challenge to us. Holding that well can be difficult. The older I get the less sure I am about the finer details of Christianity but the more certain I am of the big truths. ]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://brianharrisauthor.com/arguing-for-the-sake-of-heaven-why-we-need-curious-conversations/#comment-19728">Phillip Nash</a>.</p>
<p>It is a real tension &#8211; which I guess makes “arguing for the sake of heaven” all the more important. We need to be able push back, and to ask people to qualify what they are saying, or expand on it. And at times we have to agree to disagree &#8211; though hopefully that doesn’t happen too quickly. I guess the stress comes when we hear an unexpected view that comes as a real challenge to us. Holding that well can be difficult. The older I get the less sure I am about the finer details of Christianity but the more certain I am of the big truths. </p>
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		By: Phillip Nash		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Phillip Nash]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 May 2021 11:00:26 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://brianharrisauthor.com/arguing-for-the-sake-of-heaven-why-we-need-curious-conversations/#comment-19727&quot;&gt;Brian Harris&lt;/a&gt;.

Thanks. I am increasingly reluctant to be too dogmatic on things in an effort to listen carefully to other views but at the same time I am wanting to hold onto some sort of steady foundation of belief and perhaps even more so when belief in anything is viewed with increasing suspicion today.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://brianharrisauthor.com/arguing-for-the-sake-of-heaven-why-we-need-curious-conversations/#comment-19727">Brian Harris</a>.</p>
<p>Thanks. I am increasingly reluctant to be too dogmatic on things in an effort to listen carefully to other views but at the same time I am wanting to hold onto some sort of steady foundation of belief and perhaps even more so when belief in anything is viewed with increasing suspicion today.</p>
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		By: Brian Harris		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Brian Harris]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 May 2021 10:56:24 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://brianharrisauthor.com/arguing-for-the-sake-of-heaven-why-we-need-curious-conversations/#comment-19726&quot;&gt;Name Phillip Nash&lt;/a&gt;.

I agree that sometimes it is a case of either/or, and if a is true, b cannot be true. But when it comes to most biblical passages, there are many different emphases or nuances waiting to be discovered. I guess this is what I have found so enriching over the years - how much more is in the text waiting to be discovered. Sometimes it is that 45 of the 70 faces of the text are relevant... But I agree that it is a mistake to assume that everything is equally true or equally important. Some of the “70 faces” are at the best on the fringe. ]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://brianharrisauthor.com/arguing-for-the-sake-of-heaven-why-we-need-curious-conversations/#comment-19726">Name Phillip Nash</a>.</p>
<p>I agree that sometimes it is a case of either/or, and if a is true, b cannot be true. But when it comes to most biblical passages, there are many different emphases or nuances waiting to be discovered. I guess this is what I have found so enriching over the years &#8211; how much more is in the text waiting to be discovered. Sometimes it is that 45 of the 70 faces of the text are relevant&#8230; But I agree that it is a mistake to assume that everything is equally true or equally important. Some of the “70 faces” are at the best on the fringe. </p>
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		By: Name Phillip Nash		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Name Phillip Nash]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 May 2021 10:48:45 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Thanks Brian but I wonder where the balance is between an openness to explore other perspectives and a rejection of a perspective because we believe it is not in line with Biblical teaching (as we can humbly understand it). I support your contention that the conversations must be polite but surely we are interested in working out which one/s of the &#039;70 faces&#039; might reflect the truth.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Brian but I wonder where the balance is between an openness to explore other perspectives and a rejection of a perspective because we believe it is not in line with Biblical teaching (as we can humbly understand it). I support your contention that the conversations must be polite but surely we are interested in working out which one/s of the &#8217;70 faces&#8217; might reflect the truth.</p>
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		By: Arguing for the sake of heaven: Why we need curious conversations… - Vose Seminary		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Arguing for the sake of heaven: Why we need curious conversations… - Vose Seminary]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 May 2021 04:38:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		By: Brian		</title>
		<link>https://brianharrisauthor.com/arguing-for-the-sake-of-heaven-why-we-need-curious-conversations/#comment-19711</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Brian]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 May 2021 03:14:45 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://brianharrisauthor.com/arguing-for-the-sake-of-heaven-why-we-need-curious-conversations/#comment-19710&quot;&gt;Deidra Young&lt;/a&gt;.

Good to hear from you Deidra. What you say is true but hopefully we can help change it over time.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://brianharrisauthor.com/arguing-for-the-sake-of-heaven-why-we-need-curious-conversations/#comment-19710">Deidra Young</a>.</p>
<p>Good to hear from you Deidra. What you say is true but hopefully we can help change it over time.</p>
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		By: Deidra Young		</title>
		<link>https://brianharrisauthor.com/arguing-for-the-sake-of-heaven-why-we-need-curious-conversations/#comment-19710</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Deidra Young]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 May 2021 02:10:38 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I enjoyed your post and reflecting on the.chaos of the.church today. Too often opposing views are not well tolerated - and attacking the person becomes easier.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I enjoyed your post and reflecting on the.chaos of the.church today. Too often opposing views are not well tolerated &#8211; and attacking the person becomes easier.</p>
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		By: Brian		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Brian]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 May 2021 01:29:36 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://brianharrisauthor.com/arguing-for-the-sake-of-heaven-why-we-need-curious-conversations/#comment-19706&quot;&gt;Karen Handley&lt;/a&gt;.

Thanks Karen. Very good to hear from you.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://brianharrisauthor.com/arguing-for-the-sake-of-heaven-why-we-need-curious-conversations/#comment-19706">Karen Handley</a>.</p>
<p>Thanks Karen. Very good to hear from you.</p>
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		By: Brian		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Brian]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 May 2021 01:28:52 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://brianharrisauthor.com/arguing-for-the-sake-of-heaven-why-we-need-curious-conversations/#comment-19707&quot;&gt;Matt Fricker&lt;/a&gt;.

Thanks Matt. The image of the gem is really helpful.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://brianharrisauthor.com/arguing-for-the-sake-of-heaven-why-we-need-curious-conversations/#comment-19707">Matt Fricker</a>.</p>
<p>Thanks Matt. The image of the gem is really helpful.</p>
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