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		By: Brian Harris		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Brian Harris]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Jan 2024 02:36:16 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://brianharrisauthor.com/churched-un-churched-or-de-churched/#comment-37419&quot;&gt;Sue DuChateau&lt;/a&gt;.

Lovely to hear from you Sue but I’m afraid as I’m based in Perth, Australia, I can’t comment about Wheaton but perhaps some of the blogs US readers might have some recommendations. 
Hope you find a place - or otherwise are able to be at peace about where you serve, even if it’s not really what you hoped for. ]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://brianharrisauthor.com/churched-un-churched-or-de-churched/#comment-37419">Sue DuChateau</a>.</p>
<p>Lovely to hear from you Sue but I’m afraid as I’m based in Perth, Australia, I can’t comment about Wheaton but perhaps some of the blogs US readers might have some recommendations.<br />
Hope you find a place &#8211; or otherwise are able to be at peace about where you serve, even if it’s not really what you hoped for. </p>
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		By: Sue DuChateau		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Sue DuChateau]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Jan 2024 01:02:04 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[CommenHi,    I cannot find a church in our area teaching truth.
And I have contacted the pastors, called big ministries and
Pastors all over the country and can.not even get a good
recommendation.   Just looking for a church teaching
the literal innerant Word of God.....Not adding or 
Subtracting ,  teaching NO Mysticism,  newage or 
Catholicism.   We live in Wheaton,  Illinois!!!!!!t *
Help!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>CommenHi,    I cannot find a church in our area teaching truth.<br />
And I have contacted the pastors, called big ministries and<br />
Pastors all over the country and can.not even get a good<br />
recommendation.   Just looking for a church teaching<br />
the literal innerant Word of God&#8230;..Not adding or<br />
Subtracting ,  teaching NO Mysticism,  newage or<br />
Catholicism.   We live in Wheaton,  Illinois!!!!!!t *<br />
Help!</p>
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		By: Name *Pansy		</title>
		<link>https://brianharrisauthor.com/churched-un-churched-or-de-churched/#comment-33519</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Name *Pansy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Aug 2023 21:58:19 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Comment *Matthew 24:11-14 Jesus already told us what was going to happen, to his disciples on mount of Olives in the Signs of the End. And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many. And because (INIQUITY SHALL ABOUND (PLENTIFUL), the LOVE OF MANY SHALL WAX COLD). But He/She that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be SAVED. And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the END COME.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Comment *Matthew 24:11-14 Jesus already told us what was going to happen, to his disciples on mount of Olives in the Signs of the End. And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many. And because (INIQUITY SHALL ABOUND (PLENTIFUL), the LOVE OF MANY SHALL WAX COLD). But He/She that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be SAVED. And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the END COME.</p>
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		By: Dawuda Mani Musa		</title>
		<link>https://brianharrisauthor.com/churched-un-churched-or-de-churched/#comment-27145</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dawuda Mani Musa]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Feb 2023 21:44:59 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://brianharrisauthor.com/churched-un-churched-or-de-churched/#comment-27143&quot;&gt;Dawuda Mani Musa&lt;/a&gt;.

Comment *That is right Matthews! &quot;Fresh Expressions&quot; make evangelism and discipleship great tools for missional ecclesiology. I think where the problem lies in regard to &quot;Churched&quot; Vs &quot;de-churched&quot; and or &quot;un-churched&quot; is the evangelism and discipleship model - The &quot;bounded set&quot; model vs. &quot;Centered set&quot; model. Each has its place, though!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://brianharrisauthor.com/churched-un-churched-or-de-churched/#comment-27143">Dawuda Mani Musa</a>.</p>
<p>Comment *That is right Matthews! &#8220;Fresh Expressions&#8221; make evangelism and discipleship great tools for missional ecclesiology. I think where the problem lies in regard to &#8220;Churched&#8221; Vs &#8220;de-churched&#8221; and or &#8220;un-churched&#8221; is the evangelism and discipleship model &#8211; The &#8220;bounded set&#8221; model vs. &#8220;Centered set&#8221; model. Each has its place, though!</p>
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		By: Dawuda Mani Musa		</title>
		<link>https://brianharrisauthor.com/churched-un-churched-or-de-churched/#comment-27143</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dawuda Mani Musa]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Feb 2023 21:37:28 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://brianharrisauthor.com/churched-un-churched-or-de-churched/#comment-21112&quot;&gt;Name *Thornton Schwenk&lt;/a&gt;.

That is right Matthews! &quot;Fresh Expressions&quot; make evangelism and discipleship great tools for missional ecclesiology. I think where the problem lies in regard to &quot;Churched&quot; Vs &quot;de-churched&quot; and or &quot;un-churched&quot; is the evangelism and disciple model - The &quot;bounded set&quot; model vs. &quot;Centered set&quot; model. Each has its place, though!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://brianharrisauthor.com/churched-un-churched-or-de-churched/#comment-21112">Name *Thornton Schwenk</a>.</p>
<p>That is right Matthews! &#8220;Fresh Expressions&#8221; make evangelism and discipleship great tools for missional ecclesiology. I think where the problem lies in regard to &#8220;Churched&#8221; Vs &#8220;de-churched&#8221; and or &#8220;un-churched&#8221; is the evangelism and disciple model &#8211; The &#8220;bounded set&#8221; model vs. &#8220;Centered set&#8221; model. Each has its place, though!</p>
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		By: Brian Harris		</title>
		<link>https://brianharrisauthor.com/churched-un-churched-or-de-churched/#comment-21119</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Brian Harris]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Nov 2021 14:45:18 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://brianharrisauthor.com/churched-un-churched-or-de-churched/#comment-21112&quot;&gt;Name *Thornton Schwenk&lt;/a&gt;.

Wonderful that God continues to use us at all stages of life.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://brianharrisauthor.com/churched-un-churched-or-de-churched/#comment-21112">Name *Thornton Schwenk</a>.</p>
<p>Wonderful that God continues to use us at all stages of life.</p>
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		By: Name *Thornton Schwenk		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Name *Thornton Schwenk]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Nov 2021 04:55:20 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I am an 80-yr old retired engineer, who has the opportunity to minister the Word of God to a small group of Christian students at a public university. (I am praying James 1:5 over this situation to seek the will of God.) I had been teaching the Bible for 7 years at a 200-inmate county jail. But it went into lockdown for almost 2 years due to Covid. fears.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am an 80-yr old retired engineer, who has the opportunity to minister the Word of God to a small group of Christian students at a public university. (I am praying James 1:5 over this situation to seek the will of God.) I had been teaching the Bible for 7 years at a 200-inmate county jail. But it went into lockdown for almost 2 years due to Covid. fears.</p>
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		By: Matthews Bantsijang		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Matthews Bantsijang]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Sep 2021 15:58:05 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[“Fresh Expressions” are new forms of church that emerge within contemporary culture and engage primarily with those who don’t ‘go to church.]]></description>
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		By: Brian Harris		</title>
		<link>https://brianharrisauthor.com/churched-un-churched-or-de-churched/#comment-19318</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Brian Harris]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Mar 2021 12:26:45 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://brianharrisauthor.com/churched-un-churched-or-de-churched/#comment-19317&quot;&gt;Elspeth&lt;/a&gt;.

Thanks Elspeth. I really appreciate you sharing a little of your story and some of your thoughts.]]></description>
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<p>Thanks Elspeth. I really appreciate you sharing a little of your story and some of your thoughts.</p>
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		By: Elspeth		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Elspeth]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Mar 2021 11:36:17 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[CommentI&#039;ve been officially de-churched for six years and wouldn&#039;t have it any other way. Never stopped believing in Christ as God, I just got tired of pretending to be someone I wasn&#039;t. All the pomp and pageantry, both deninominational or not, high or low, just hides a hollowness. Believers are meant to be taught and grow in their faith to the point that they&#039;re spiritually grown up enough not to waiver, and then get on with the practical matters of manifesting God&#039;s will on earth. I don&#039;t understand why church leaders are surprised that Christians are de-churching. It&#039;s a good thing, because it brings the Kingdom into the surrounding culture. I think it&#039;s because the church in general is afraid of losing its status as an institution, and that&#039;s why they&#039;re concerned about &quot;church growth.&quot; Pastoral leaders need to pray and ask God for discernment as to which group they should focus on &quot;bringing back into the fold.&quot; Christians can gather anywhere and worship, study the Bible and be an organic faith community rather than have a name, mission statement and hierarchal leadership structures. I personally believe that this exodus of strong believers is a sign of the Western church&#039;s coming persecution. Focus on building your young (not just age-wise) and vulnerable members in the Lord. Teach them to hear the Holy Spirit and how to study the Bible contextually. Demonstrate how to have a relationship with God, rather than your church, and stop thinking it&#039;s an indictment on you when they leave. Kids grow up and are supposed to go. Not all who wander are lost. I&#039;m certainly not.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>CommentI&#8217;ve been officially de-churched for six years and wouldn&#8217;t have it any other way. Never stopped believing in Christ as God, I just got tired of pretending to be someone I wasn&#8217;t. All the pomp and pageantry, both deninominational or not, high or low, just hides a hollowness. Believers are meant to be taught and grow in their faith to the point that they&#8217;re spiritually grown up enough not to waiver, and then get on with the practical matters of manifesting God&#8217;s will on earth. I don&#8217;t understand why church leaders are surprised that Christians are de-churching. It&#8217;s a good thing, because it brings the Kingdom into the surrounding culture. I think it&#8217;s because the church in general is afraid of losing its status as an institution, and that&#8217;s why they&#8217;re concerned about &#8220;church growth.&#8221; Pastoral leaders need to pray and ask God for discernment as to which group they should focus on &#8220;bringing back into the fold.&#8221; Christians can gather anywhere and worship, study the Bible and be an organic faith community rather than have a name, mission statement and hierarchal leadership structures. I personally believe that this exodus of strong believers is a sign of the Western church&#8217;s coming persecution. Focus on building your young (not just age-wise) and vulnerable members in the Lord. Teach them to hear the Holy Spirit and how to study the Bible contextually. Demonstrate how to have a relationship with God, rather than your church, and stop thinking it&#8217;s an indictment on you when they leave. Kids grow up and are supposed to go. Not all who wander are lost. I&#8217;m certainly not.</p>
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