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		By: Brian		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 07 May 2019 06:16:56 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://brianharrisauthor.com/towards-a-21st-century-church-2-time-for-the-500-year-rummage-sale/#comment-15677&quot;&gt;Ian Hill&lt;/a&gt;.

Thanks so much Ian. These are really insightful and helpful comments. I take your point about it needing some courage to get these views out, but isn’t that part of the problem - that people don’t feel free to say what they think lest they face criticism or are shut down? But we need a range of views and serious discussions if we are to move forward. Thanks again.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://brianharrisauthor.com/towards-a-21st-century-church-2-time-for-the-500-year-rummage-sale/#comment-15677">Ian Hill</a>.</p>
<p>Thanks so much Ian. These are really insightful and helpful comments. I take your point about it needing some courage to get these views out, but isn’t that part of the problem &#8211; that people don’t feel free to say what they think lest they face criticism or are shut down? But we need a range of views and serious discussions if we are to move forward. Thanks again.</p>
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		By: Ian Hill		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 06 May 2019 14:27:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Hi Brian, it is an excellent study and commentary, so very well researched and articulated. It takes some vision - and some courage - to put these sorts of thoughts out there...congratulations! And the invited inputs from colleagues give it even more strength and relevance.

As with other opportunities in Australia, there is complacency which is quite misplaced in a relatively new ‘global village’ situation...in too many areas we and other western nations are sleepwalking our way to irrelevancy. And the Christian church appears entrenched in that. 

There seems a lack of realisation that the ‘brand’ has suffered significant damage over the past 20 years (or less). And it is difficult to find any reassurance that the Christian churches are individually and collectively working at putting that right as a priority.

Not much value, in my (limited) understanding of what is happening churchwise in 2019 and beyond, wringing our hands at what is taking place out there in the schools, Rugby Australia, a possible Labor government(??) etc etc etc if the Christian brand is viewed as suss by a large part of the community. In turn it’s rather hard for us as individuals to channel ‘authenticism’ into much that goes very far when there’s no real marketing and strong brand identity out there, and therefore little (constructive) conversation running in the community to tap into.

It is so refreshing to read your challenging words in the blog...I’ve taken the liberty of sending the link to a couple of leaders in 1church Lakelands/Mandurah. Your call to action should be a critical take-off point for a revival. 
‘Could This Be God’ is likewise inspiring, I’m on my second cover-to-cover read after having dipped into various parts often at random. 

Looking forward to hearing more from you on the 19th.

Blessings, very best wishes
Ian]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Brian, it is an excellent study and commentary, so very well researched and articulated. It takes some vision &#8211; and some courage &#8211; to put these sorts of thoughts out there&#8230;congratulations! And the invited inputs from colleagues give it even more strength and relevance.</p>
<p>As with other opportunities in Australia, there is complacency which is quite misplaced in a relatively new ‘global village’ situation&#8230;in too many areas we and other western nations are sleepwalking our way to irrelevancy. And the Christian church appears entrenched in that. </p>
<p>There seems a lack of realisation that the ‘brand’ has suffered significant damage over the past 20 years (or less). And it is difficult to find any reassurance that the Christian churches are individually and collectively working at putting that right as a priority.</p>
<p>Not much value, in my (limited) understanding of what is happening churchwise in 2019 and beyond, wringing our hands at what is taking place out there in the schools, Rugby Australia, a possible Labor government(??) etc etc etc if the Christian brand is viewed as suss by a large part of the community. In turn it’s rather hard for us as individuals to channel ‘authenticism’ into much that goes very far when there’s no real marketing and strong brand identity out there, and therefore little (constructive) conversation running in the community to tap into.</p>
<p>It is so refreshing to read your challenging words in the blog&#8230;I’ve taken the liberty of sending the link to a couple of leaders in 1church Lakelands/Mandurah. Your call to action should be a critical take-off point for a revival.<br />
‘Could This Be God’ is likewise inspiring, I’m on my second cover-to-cover read after having dipped into various parts often at random. </p>
<p>Looking forward to hearing more from you on the 19th.</p>
<p>Blessings, very best wishes<br />
Ian</p>
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		By: Brian		</title>
		<link>https://brianharrisauthor.com/towards-a-21st-century-church-2-time-for-the-500-year-rummage-sale/#comment-15675</link>

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		<pubDate>Mon, 06 May 2019 06:01:27 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://brianharrisauthor.com/towards-a-21st-century-church-2-time-for-the-500-year-rummage-sale/#comment-15674&quot;&gt;Shelly Hill&lt;/a&gt;.

Thanks Shelly. Look forward to seeing you and Ian at Lakeland’s on the 19th. ]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://brianharrisauthor.com/towards-a-21st-century-church-2-time-for-the-500-year-rummage-sale/#comment-15674">Shelly Hill</a>.</p>
<p>Thanks Shelly. Look forward to seeing you and Ian at Lakeland’s on the 19th. </p>
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		By: Shelly Hill		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Shelly Hill]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 May 2019 05:07:20 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Brian, Ian and I have both been reading this through a number of times to let it sink in, it resonates with us considerably.  Thank you for sharing yours and the others profound thoughts, it&#039;s really appreciated.  We&#039;re looking forward to seeing and hearing you at Lakelands on the 19th May.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brian, Ian and I have both been reading this through a number of times to let it sink in, it resonates with us considerably.  Thank you for sharing yours and the others profound thoughts, it&#8217;s really appreciated.  We&#8217;re looking forward to seeing and hearing you at Lakelands on the 19th May.</p>
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		By: Brian		</title>
		<link>https://brianharrisauthor.com/towards-a-21st-century-church-2-time-for-the-500-year-rummage-sale/#comment-15657</link>

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		<pubDate>Fri, 03 May 2019 06:56:11 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://brianharrisauthor.com/towards-a-21st-century-church-2-time-for-the-500-year-rummage-sale/#comment-15654&quot;&gt;Glen Brand&lt;/a&gt;.

Thanks Glen. Very good to hear from you.]]></description>
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<p>Thanks Glen. Very good to hear from you.</p>
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		By: Glen Brand		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 02 May 2019 01:20:47 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Excellent post Brian and only just scratches the surface. I suspect the church has moved considerably further in this 500 yr change, but that church is not easily seen from within the established institutions. I am hopeful that this church will be more diverse and less visible in structure but more powerful and united in Spirit.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent post Brian and only just scratches the surface. I suspect the church has moved considerably further in this 500 yr change, but that church is not easily seen from within the established institutions. I am hopeful that this church will be more diverse and less visible in structure but more powerful and united in Spirit.</p>
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